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Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of No Such Thing as a Fish.
I'm quickly here to introduce you to our special guest this week, and that is Athena Cablenu.
Now you'll remember Athena.
She's been on that fish a couple of times, but one interesting new thing to say about her is she has a new podcast.
Her podcast is called Why Does My Child Hate Me?
It's absolutely amazing.
I think she got the name from reading my mind at 6.30 this morning.
But it's a brilliant podcast.
It's all about how we as parents are absolutely amazing and it is the children who are wrong.
It's so good and you should definitely check that out.
If you want to hear any more from Athena, you can get her on social media on Twitter and Instagram.
Both of those places, she can be found at Athena Cablenu.
And just so you know how to spell her surname, it's K-U-G-B-L-E-N-U.
Not much more to say, except we do have a live show coming up.
It's at the British Library.