The art of political puppetry with Gzero’s ‘Puppet Regime’ and new title ‘Now Voyager’

We speak with Gzero Media founder, Ian Bremmer, and the force behind its satirical ‘Puppet Regime’, Alex Kliment. Then: Hélène Werner and Nicolas Stavros Niarchos on ‘Now Voyager’, their new title for longform reporting. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.