The Companies Changing Warfare Forever: Palantir & Anduril Execs on Drones, AI & the Future of War

改变战争永远的科技公司:Palantir与Anduril高管论无人机、人工智能与战争的未来

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

2026-04-06

1 小时 9 分钟
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(0:00) Friedberg Intros Palantir's Shyam Sankar and Anduril's Trae Stephens (0:56) Palantir Origins: CIA Analyst Joins 20-Person Startup (2:54) War, Deterrence & Silicon Valley's Defense Tech Taboo (8:39) US vs China: Drone Gap, Shipbuilding & 2027 Taiwan Threat (12:27) Anduril's Arsenal-1 Factory & Fixing US Munitions Supply Chain (41:48) Autonomous Weapons, AI Decision-Making & Future of War (47:15) Anthropic vs Pentagon: Ethics of AI in Combat (50:39) Palantir Surveillance State Claims (55:57) Anti-Defense Culture Origins: Vietnam, Snowden & Foreign Influence Axon.ai — AppLovin's AI advertising platform reaches over a billion daily active users across mobile games. Full-screen video ads with a 35-second median watch time. Advertisers are profitably spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a day and advertiser access is still in closed beta. The window is open at https://axon.ai/allin. Follow Trae: https://x.com/traestephens Follow Shyam: https://x.com/ssankar Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect
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  • Trey Stevens, Sean Sankar, welcome to the All In Podcast at the Hill and Valley Forum.

  • Thank you guys for being here.

  • What's up?

  • How are you guys doing?

  • Thanks for having us.

  • Doing great.

  • Good to be here too.

  • You guys are friends, right?

  • You guys go back like a long time?

  • A really long time.

  • Okay, tell us how you guys know each other.

  • Palantir, Andurl, what's the connection and the history?

  • Well, I'll start.

  • You can fill in all the gaps.

  • I feel like I know the story you're going to tell and it's going to be very uncomfortable.

  • Every few years, a new ad channel opens before the market catches on.

  • That's Axon. ai right now.

  • The AI ad platform behind one of the biggest runs in tech with access to over a billion daily active users.

  • Full screen video ads in mobile games watched for a median of 35 seconds.

  • Businesses are profitably spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a day on it,