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I am here with Francis Fukuyama.
Frank, thanks for joining me on the podcast.
Well, thanks very much for having me.
I think you and I have only met in person once.
I don't know if you recall this, but I think we met in Mexico
ages ago at the Ciudad de las Ides conference.
Okay, sure.
In Puebla.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was a strangely well-produced event.
It was impressive.
It was like the Mexican version of Ted, but with some obvious narco traffickers sitting in the front row.
You know, octogenarians with 20-year-old girlfriends or something like that.