Pope Leo excommunicates

教皇利奥宣布逐出教会

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2026-07-10

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The recent excommunication of a conservative Catholic group and a sharp stance on AI means that Pope Leo XIV is dealing with the same problems as the rest of us. This episode was produced by Ariana Aspuru, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Gabriel Dunatov, engineered by David Tatasciore, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Pope Leo XIV delivers a blessing in front of Saint Peter's Basilica in Vatican City. Photo by Beata Zawrzel/NurPhoto via Getty Images. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. New Vox members get $20 off their membership right now. Transcript at ⁠vox.com/today-explained-podcast.⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • It's been a little over a year since the first ever American became pope.

  • And it's been about a year and a half since the second

  • ever Catholic vice president of the United States was sworn into office.

  • Pope Leo and J.D.

  • Vance aren't officially beefing, but there's definitely tension.

  • The pope spoke out against the Iran war.

  • God does not bless any conflict.

  • Anyone who is a disciple of Christ is never on the side of those who once wielded the sword.

  • And today dropped bombs.

  • And J.D. Vance clapped back, saying, When the Pope says God is never on the side of those who wield the sword,

  • there is more than a thousand-year tradition of just war theory, okay?

  • What followed was a not-insignificant contingent of Catholics

  • and non-Catholics alike, saying Pope Leo should excommunicate J.D.

  • Vance.

  • It's probably not going to happen, but the Chicago Pope just kicked a bunch of conservatives out of the Catholic Church.

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