2026-10-24
1 小时 45 分钟Stephen Selmer, thank you very much for coming on.
The reason I'm so excited to talk to you is because it's hard to find anyone who pays attention to the numbers.
It's easy to find people with opinions
and sweeping theories about this, that or the other, the rise and fall of nations.
But to find someone who actually keeps track of what we're spending on this or that or what people
think about this or that as recorded in public opinion polling, pretty hard, actually.
And you are probably the most famous person who keeps track.
So thank you very much for doing this.
So let me just ask you, let's start with the Iran war.
It's popularity.
So, like, democracy kind of demands if you're going to do big things
that you've got public buy-in because you're doing it on behalf of the public, purportedly.
How is this war viewed by the public in the United States?
It's the most unpopular war since polling began.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
The first poll, according to this joint poll that's been conducted
on a near weekly basis since the start of the war through the present by The Economist and YouGov.