Anna Martin: From the New York Times,
I'm Anna Martin.
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Today, we've got an essay about knowing what you want
and asking for it directly.
That's a very vanilla way of saying
this episode is about kink.
Aly Tadros had no experience with domination in the bedroom,
but she was intrigued.
In her essay,
she tells the story of her first B.D.S.M. relationship,
and then we talk about taking kink outside the bedroom
and how it's changed the way Aly approaches her entire life.
This is Modern Love.
Aly, welcome to the studio.
Aly Tadros: Thank you.
I'm so glad to be here.
Anna Martin: So you're a musician,
why did you write an essay about the story instead of a song?
Aly Tadros: I think because there were so many moments