2024-04-10
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Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.
I'm head of programming, Connor Boyle.
Coming up on the podcast, Annie Jacobson, the investigative journalist and author whose books tell factual stories about Warcraft and the government secrecy that surrounds it, but they simultaneously read like unputdownable thrillers.
It's not surprising, then, that her Pulitzer nominated work can be found in both journalistic pieces and fiction, including Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan tv show.
Previous books have covered topics ranging from the CIA to Area 51 and the Second World War.
Her latest book is Nuclear a scenario, and recently she joined Josh Glancy, editor of the news Review at the Sunday Times, to talk about it.
Our guest today is Annie Jacobson.
I think, Annie, I first came across your work in the book.
You wrote a book about Area 51, didn't you?
Yes, I did, about 13, well, 13 or 14 years ago.
And it's fair to say you tend to be very interested in and work on what one might say the sort of the margins of american defense life, be it Area 51.
You've looked at DARPA and sort of some of the kind of psyop stuff they do, and now you've written a book about nuclear war called, very simply, nuclear war, a scenario.