Searching for Another England, with Caroline Lucas and Grace Blakeley, Part Two

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  Hello and welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

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  We're about to dive back into the second part of our live discussion with Green Party politician and author Caroline Lucas.

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  If you havent heard part one, just jump back an episode and get up to speed.

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  Caroline was live on stage for our intelligence squared event at Londons Tabernacle recently to talk about her new book, Another England, as well as her journey through a career that has seen her grow from being an outside voice to becoming a Westminster insider.

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  But now lets rejoin our host for the evening, economics and politics journalist and author of Vulture Capitalism, Grace Blakely.

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  I'm thinking now again about this whole idea of a national, sorry, a natural history course of how closely the development of the british economy and british society has been with our relationship to the land and our laws around the land.

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  So from the charter of the forest all the way through to the enclosures, right, which are central to the emergence and development of capitalism.

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  You have to enclose all this commonly held land to create a class of people that have to go and work in these dark satanic mills.

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  And all the way up to today, where we're seeing what will be, if it happens, this massive economic and political transformation of a move away from fossil fuels, which will transform all aspects of the economy.

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