Daron Acemoglu on Liberalism, Automation, and the Educated Elite

达龙·阿西莫格鲁论自由主义、自动化与受过高等教育的精英阶层

Conversations with Tyler

2026-08-12

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Daron Acemoglu returns for his second appearance with a new book, What Happened to Liberal Democracy?, which Tyler reads as an attempt to redefine and revitalize liberalism for our times. Where Daron's first visit was about how states and societies contend for the narrow corridor in which liberty survives, this one asks what liberals themselves got wrong, and the answer implicates the educated elite—that is to say, you. Tyler and Daron discuss what's wrong with social contract theories and Rousseau's general will, whether Acemoglu is more objectivist than Rorty, why he blames left liberalism's own establishment power for its collapse, what standard is left once you refuse to have a book of higher values, nondomination versus noninterference, who counts as working class, why automation alone will not lead to widespread prosperity, how he can call himself a free speech absolutist while wanting to regulate social media, why he worries we've given up on educating Americans, whether teachers' unions need to be reconstituted, what the life expectancy for an educated twenty year old is today, whether open-source models undercut the centralization worry, what pro-worker AI actually means, why the fertility crisis leaves him strangely close to a real business cycle position, whether AI will raise his own already prodigious paper output, why Armenia has disappointed economically, what he wants to learn next, and more. Read a transcript enhanced with helpful links, or watch the full video on YouTube. Recorded July 15th, 2026. Other ways to connect Follow us on X and Instagram Follow Tyler on X Follow Daron on X Sign up for our newsletter Join our Discord Email us: cowenconvos@mercatus.gmu.edu  Learn more about Conversations with Tyler and other Mercatus Center podcasts here. Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:08:57 - On the working class vs. the elite 00:13:16 - On automation 00:22:33 - On free speech 00:27:22 - On immigration 00:31:08 - On artificial intelligence 00:50:36 - On Armenia 00:53:22 - On what comes next 00:54:51 - Outro Image credit: Bryce Vickmark
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  • For a full transcript of every conversation, enhanced with helpful links, Hello, everyone,

  • and welcome back to Conversations with Tyler.

  • Today, I'm honored to be sitting here with Darren Asimoglu.

  • He is, of course, Nobel laureate in economics, arguably the best published

  • and by some measures the best cited economist in the world.

  • But most importantly, he has a new book out, What Happened to Liberal Democracy?

  • This is a major work.

  • I think of it as an attempt to redefine and revitalize liberalism for our current times.

  • Darren, welcome.

  • Thank you, Tyler.

  • It's my pleasure.

  • And thanks for that wonderful introduction, which is gets to the heart of the matter.

  • That's exactly what my ambition is with the book, whether it will succeed.

  • That's much more questionable.

  • I like to start with an oblique question.

  • So what is your main objection to social contract theories and contractarianism?

  • Okay, so that's like jumping into the book,

  • but that's part of how I try to think of an alternative to the current conceptualization of liberalism,

  • which I believe relies too much on social contract theories.

  • And in my mind, social contract theories.