BBC sounds music radio podcasts.
Paddy, it's the end of our live radio four experiment.
I think podcasters will be pleased.
Why?
Because they get back the pure podcast and we don't.
We don't mention other people.
Yeah, but they get the jeopardy of.
Are we gonna muck up live on the radio?
Do you think that's worth.
I think it's worth a lot.
Yes, I do.
Yeah.
But we're not gonna muck up in this episode because we've got Joe Cockburn here.
Welcome back from your Holly bobs.
Yeah, thank you very much.
I've just had three slightly rainy days in Scotland, but it was lovely.
I like this, by the way.
What?
Our sort of fake living room that we've got here.
Yeah, I do.